Wednesday, November 09, 2005
Secular Liberals: The "Useful Idiots" for Radical Islam
"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was
convincing the world he didn't exist."
--"Verbal" Kint
They're commonplace in offices and on desks everywhere; those spongy, squeezable "stress relievers" that we're supposed to clamp down on during times of frustration. In late September, the British town of Dudley in Worcestershire received a shipment of them for town employees. The rubbery little pig-shaped doodads may have been a waste of town money, but a reasonable person would consider them innocuous in every other respect.Or, one would think.
The little piggies were viewed as an outrage by the Muslims local to the Dudley area. Muslims, after all, don't eat, keep, or tolerate pigs. Even squishy ones designed for squeezing when you're on the phone with some tough customer. In their ire, the Brit Muslims demanded that the squeezie piggies be rounded up and removed from town offices.
That's unreasonable and childish. This is worse: The township of Dudley complied with the demand. In fact, in an apparent state of panicked appeasement, town authorities even ordered one employee to get rid of a box of tissues because it featured the Winnie The Pooh character Piglet. In a statement that another age would have recognized as comic irony, a Muslim member of the town council declared that the town had acted in "tolerance of people's beliefs."If this were an isolated incident, it would indicate little more than the silliness level of Dudley, England. But, it's not an isolated incident. It's just one more indication that secular liberals expect the world to crawl under the prayer rugs of Muslim extremists.
Political correctness has turned the idea of religious tolerance into a perverse parody of itself. Secular white liberals, cowed by an irrational shame of themselves and a deeply hidden (and deeply racist) fear of other cultures and races, no longer recognize the devil when they see him. Anyone who agrees with radical Islam's hatred of the west is thought by secular liberals to be a progressive free thinker. Anyone who doesn't agree, conversely, is vilified as an oppressor.
Not only have secular liberals turned religious liberty into a mockery, they've radically distorted another doctrine they claim to hold dear: the separation of church and state. To the secular liberal, that very phrase is really just pale camouflage for his or her hatred of Christianity. If they were really concerned about the evil of state-sponsored religion, secular liberals would tirelessly rail against Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Iran, and any other nation where Islamic hatred is public policy.
Speaking plainly, even George W. Bush (certainly no friend of secular liberals) has hardly been as much of an enemy of radical Islam as he should have been. It's inarguable that the U.S. role in bringing democracy to Iraq and Afghanistan has been heroic. Never has the selflessness of the American military been more evident than it has in those two countries. Still, as long as we continue to turn a blind eye to the pro-terrorist activities of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, we aren't doing enough. Alex Alexiev writes for the National Review:
The basic facts of Saudi sponsorship of radical Islam are too well known to require much rehearsal here. According to Riyadh’s own admission, the kingdom has spent an average of no less than $2.5 billion per year for the past three decades to support “Islamic activities.” This has allowed it to build and control 210 Islamic centers, 1,500 mosques, 2,000 schools, and 200 colleges in non-Muslim countries alone. As a result, there is hardly a Western city today that does not have an Islamist-controlled institution of one kind or another spewing hatred against the West and Muslims who refuse to submit to radical Islam. It is this infrastructure of extremist mosques, madrassas, “charities,” and foundations that was and continues to be the real incubator of fanaticism worldwide and a foe vastly more potent than al-Qaeda...
Washington exhibits much the same shortsightedness with respect to our other “strategic ally” in the region, Pakistan. After the London bombings — four years after Islamabad switched sides from being a patron of the Taliban and al-Qaeda to becoming an American ally — President Musharraf admitted that he had, in effect, done nothing to curtail the pervasive jihadist networks and madrassa hate-factories in his country. He has now made new promises to do that, but there is no reason to believe that it will happen. Indeed, the man charged with carrying out the task, minister of religious affairs Ijaz ul-Haq, recently denied any link between the madrassas and terrorism...
We might then ask ourselves a simple question: If democracy is good for Iraq, why is it not good for Pakistan and Saudi Arabia?
(The emphasis above was mine.)
Given it's agenda, the spread of radical Islam should be viewed as no different than the spread of Nazism in the 1930's and 1940's. Why didn't we learn this lesson then? No world view has been more violently aggressive or destructive as radical Islam since the heyday of Nazism. Given the causes they claim to champion (homosexual rights, women's rights, religious tolerance and pacifism), secular liberals should be absolutely obsessed with bringing an end to radical Islam.
Why aren't they?
I believe that radical Islam is tolerated and even supported by secular libearals because they share one common enemy: Christianity.
Secular liberals aren't concerned with state-sponsored Islam and the oppression and murder it causes because, to the secular liberal, "separation of church and state" begins and ends with getting rid of any Ten Commandments plaques that might be on the wall in some courthouse in Mississippi.
Secular liberals are all for "human rights," and they have the bumper stickers to prove it! But for the secular liberal, support of human rights begins and ends with that bumper sticker and the latest Beastie Boys album. Since actually liberating people from dictators involves getting up, taking real chances, and doing something, secular liberals are dead set against it. They won't be getting their hands dirty, thank you.Secular liberals hate anyone who ridicules gays and women... and they'll prove it by telling you exactly what they think of Larry the Cable Guy and Eminem. But what about those Islam-controlled nations where women aren't even allowed educations, and where gays are hung for being gay? Hmmmm... somehow, secular liberals don't have much to say about that.
As secular liberals pull further and further away from the real causes they claim to champion, Christianity, merely by being what it is, reminds them of their own hollow core. And, secular liberals see anything that makes them ashamed of themselves as an oppressor. Therefore, regardless of the real barbarity of radical Islam, secular liberals will always see Christians as their greatest threat. Theodore Dalrymple, also in the National Review, exposes their hypocrisy all too well:
Islamists have beheaded hostages and opponents in Algeria, Chechnya, Iraq, Nigeria, the Philippines, and Thailand. In late June, for example, a traveling salesman from northern Thailand was publicly beheaded by Islamists outside a teashop in southern Thailand and his head thrown away a mile or two down the road by his executioners. No doubt this will stifle theological debate in the area for some time...
Compared with this, even the most literal-minded Bible fundamentalist in the West lives, de facto at least, like the child of Voltaire, for even such a fundamentalist probably wouldn’t dare justify decapitation as a policy by reference to David and Goliath. And if by any chance he did, he would rightly be laughed at by his fellow citizens.
Evidence of how radical Islam has secular liberalism under it's thumb is everywhere:
Wake up, secular liberals. You're in bed with the devil.
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I am a southern conservative who found this site while looking for like minded people with blogs. I haave not had the time to read it all but based on what I have read so far(especially the pig dolls) my only comment is AMEN!
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Great post!
I am sick of people moving to another nation and expecting that nation to become like the nation they left. If I go to a Muslim country, I will expect to see Muslim holidays celebrated and passages of the Koran displayed. I don't have the right to demand that they change their ways for me. Do you think for one second that any Muslim nation would give a rat's a$$ about my "feelings" or about my being offended? How dare them demand that we change for them. It's ridiculous!
I am sick of people moving to another nation and expecting that nation to become like the nation they left. If I go to a Muslim country, I will expect to see Muslim holidays celebrated and passages of the Koran displayed. I don't have the right to demand that they change their ways for me. Do you think for one second that any Muslim nation would give a rat's a$$ about my "feelings" or about my being offended? How dare them demand that we change for them. It's ridiculous!
Re: Cliff's comment:
Coincidentally, I was going to comment here that I just found this blog... I am a conservative who is [perhaps unfortunately] not a Southerner... Though I am definitely a strong fan of Dixie!! I saw this blog's title on a blogroll, and followed it, because of it's name... The thing is, I am a fan of Southern blogs (and southern other things, as well) - but this blog's title was somewhat confusing, because there was (and hopefully still is) another blog called "Southern Conservatives," or something like that... I think that my Blogosphere friend Patrick Carver blogged for it; it's a group weblog. There were other blog's with similarly-themed titles - this one must be one of the newer ones. Anyway, I am glad that you are a conservative (though I hope, like many in the South, that you do not support the pro-state, anti-liberty approach of the Leviathan state, and instead support traditionalist and constitutionalist conservatism).
Coincidentally, I was going to comment here that I just found this blog... I am a conservative who is [perhaps unfortunately] not a Southerner... Though I am definitely a strong fan of Dixie!! I saw this blog's title on a blogroll, and followed it, because of it's name... The thing is, I am a fan of Southern blogs (and southern other things, as well) - but this blog's title was somewhat confusing, because there was (and hopefully still is) another blog called "Southern Conservatives," or something like that... I think that my Blogosphere friend Patrick Carver blogged for it; it's a group weblog. There were other blog's with similarly-themed titles - this one must be one of the newer ones. Anyway, I am glad that you are a conservative (though I hope, like many in the South, that you do not support the pro-state, anti-liberty approach of the Leviathan state, and instead support traditionalist and constitutionalist conservatism).
"If I go to a Muslim country, I will expect to see Muslim holidays celebrated and passages of the Koran displayed."
Exactly! I have thought this for a long time. What is so awful about a group of people expressing their beliefs in a democratic counry?! Or even (God forbid!) just doing something fun that is not even about any kind of religious self expression at all!?!?!
The idea of radical Islam being akin to Naziism had not occured to me though. Something to definately ponder, that's for sure.
I think it is the discomfort with religion and the hands off approach to separation of church and state in this country that is keeping this issue from becoming a more public one.
Exactly! I have thought this for a long time. What is so awful about a group of people expressing their beliefs in a democratic counry?! Or even (God forbid!) just doing something fun that is not even about any kind of religious self expression at all!?!?!
The idea of radical Islam being akin to Naziism had not occured to me though. Something to definately ponder, that's for sure.
I think it is the discomfort with religion and the hands off approach to separation of church and state in this country that is keeping this issue from becoming a more public one.
"But what about those Islam-controlled nations where women aren't even allowed educations, and where gays are hung for being gay? Hmmmm... somehow, secular liberals don't have much to say about that."
He says, linking to an apparently secular liberal writer criticizing the hanging of gays in Iran. Smart.
He says, linking to an apparently secular liberal writer criticizing the hanging of gays in Iran. Smart.
Dear Anonymous,
That liberal writer actually agrees with Conservatives in the sense that he is calling gay activists out of their closets (so to speak) to fight real oppression...not the "after school special" version of oppression we Americans love so much.
That liberal writer actually agrees with Conservatives in the sense that he is calling gay activists out of their closets (so to speak) to fight real oppression...not the "after school special" version of oppression we Americans love so much.
Anonymous: He says, linking to an apparently secular liberal writer criticizing the hanging of gays in Iran. Smart.
In addition to Bohemian's articulate and accurate response to what you wrote, I'll point out that the article I linked to is more critical of the Bush administration than of the murderers themselves. Beyond that, the last paragraph of the article actually attacks Christians, who played no role in the hangings. The writer can't bring himself to forcefully condemn those who killed the young gay men in Iran, and he can't stop himself from mocking Christians. In this context the article supports my point. That's apparent if you actually read it. Reading is fundamental. Try it sometime.
In addition to Bohemian's articulate and accurate response to what you wrote, I'll point out that the article I linked to is more critical of the Bush administration than of the murderers themselves. Beyond that, the last paragraph of the article actually attacks Christians, who played no role in the hangings. The writer can't bring himself to forcefully condemn those who killed the young gay men in Iran, and he can't stop himself from mocking Christians. In this context the article supports my point. That's apparent if you actually read it. Reading is fundamental. Try it sometime.
"That liberal writer actually agrees with Conservatives in the sense that he is calling gay activists out of their closets..."
Actually, he calls upon conservatives to condemn it. I didn't see any call to gay activists. Reading is fundamental. Try it sometime.
"I'll point out that the article I linked to is more critical of the Bush administration than of the murderers themselves."
That's one opinion, but I don't see much support for it. His criticisms of the Bush administration are for similar things that he criticizes Iran for. The fact that you don't condemn the execution of minors or the use of torture when you bring up the issue merely highlights why drawing the parallel was relevant.
"Beyond that, the last paragraph of the article actually attacks Christians, who played no role in the hangings."
He says that Bush's base of Christians supporters probably wouldn't support such an invasion. I think he's right. Again, that may be critical, but it's not very harsh or an attack.
"In this context the article supports my point."
You asserted that liberals don't have much to say about something, then link to a liberal who does have something to say about it. The fact that he talks about more this supports your point? That person links to other liberals who condemn the even. Irrelevant? Evidently Interesting way you have of supporting your ideas. I can now see why you say:
"Reading is fundamental. Try it sometime."
Right after praising Bohemian's comment which said something that simply isn't true. Bohemian is "accurate and articulate" when saying something incorrect, I'm told to try reading sometime when I point out something truthful. Up is down, black is white.
Actually, he calls upon conservatives to condemn it. I didn't see any call to gay activists. Reading is fundamental. Try it sometime.
"I'll point out that the article I linked to is more critical of the Bush administration than of the murderers themselves."
That's one opinion, but I don't see much support for it. His criticisms of the Bush administration are for similar things that he criticizes Iran for. The fact that you don't condemn the execution of minors or the use of torture when you bring up the issue merely highlights why drawing the parallel was relevant.
"Beyond that, the last paragraph of the article actually attacks Christians, who played no role in the hangings."
He says that Bush's base of Christians supporters probably wouldn't support such an invasion. I think he's right. Again, that may be critical, but it's not very harsh or an attack.
"In this context the article supports my point."
You asserted that liberals don't have much to say about something, then link to a liberal who does have something to say about it. The fact that he talks about more this supports your point? That person links to other liberals who condemn the even. Irrelevant? Evidently Interesting way you have of supporting your ideas. I can now see why you say:
"Reading is fundamental. Try it sometime."
Right after praising Bohemian's comment which said something that simply isn't true. Bohemian is "accurate and articulate" when saying something incorrect, I'm told to try reading sometime when I point out something truthful. Up is down, black is white.
Anon: That's one opinion, but I don't see much support for it.
Well, once again, read the article.
The fact that you don't condemn the execution of minors or the use of torture when you bring up the issue merely highlights why drawing the parallel was relevant.
Well, that's laughable. If my correlation between Radical Islam and Nazi Germany doesn't qualify as condemnation, I don't know what it would take. You realize that the Nazis were the bad guys, right?
You asserted that liberals don't have much to say about something, then link to a liberal who does have something to say about it. The fact that he talks about more this supports your point?
It's not that he talks about "more this", whatever that might be. The fact that he contrives a way to blame the Christian right supports my point. Nonetheless, I will concede your point that he does seem to speak out against the murderers themselves.
Yet, Doug Ireland (one of the links in the article I referenced) seems to be one of the very few on the left who has pressed the issue. I've searched for others and can't find them. Oh, there are plenty of lefties out there railing against Christians on a daily basis... but I maintain that the left has let the issue of the murders I referenced drop. Most of the few on the left who did mentioned the murders twisted the incident into an anti-Bush tirade. I suppose that ultimately, to the leftist, Bush is responsible for everything bad, including 9/11, Hurricane Katrina, and Chicken Pox. Condemning Bush and Christians is second nature for lefties. Condemnation of Iran, however, isn't on their agenda... regardless of how the Iranian government treats gays, women, etc.
Am I wrong? Reference a few left-wing blogs or writers who want to see Radical Islam stopped. Can you even come up with five? If so, I'd very, very happily concede my point on that issue, too.
Not that I'll have to.
Well, once again, read the article.
The fact that you don't condemn the execution of minors or the use of torture when you bring up the issue merely highlights why drawing the parallel was relevant.
Well, that's laughable. If my correlation between Radical Islam and Nazi Germany doesn't qualify as condemnation, I don't know what it would take. You realize that the Nazis were the bad guys, right?
You asserted that liberals don't have much to say about something, then link to a liberal who does have something to say about it. The fact that he talks about more this supports your point?
It's not that he talks about "more this", whatever that might be. The fact that he contrives a way to blame the Christian right supports my point. Nonetheless, I will concede your point that he does seem to speak out against the murderers themselves.
Yet, Doug Ireland (one of the links in the article I referenced) seems to be one of the very few on the left who has pressed the issue. I've searched for others and can't find them. Oh, there are plenty of lefties out there railing against Christians on a daily basis... but I maintain that the left has let the issue of the murders I referenced drop. Most of the few on the left who did mentioned the murders twisted the incident into an anti-Bush tirade. I suppose that ultimately, to the leftist, Bush is responsible for everything bad, including 9/11, Hurricane Katrina, and Chicken Pox. Condemning Bush and Christians is second nature for lefties. Condemnation of Iran, however, isn't on their agenda... regardless of how the Iranian government treats gays, women, etc.
Am I wrong? Reference a few left-wing blogs or writers who want to see Radical Islam stopped. Can you even come up with five? If so, I'd very, very happily concede my point on that issue, too.
Not that I'll have to.
ideologically speaking, American Christian evangelistic conservatives have a lot more in common with fundamentalist radical muslims than secular liberals do.
Anon: ideologically speaking, American Christian evangelistic conservatives have a lot more in common with fundamentalist radical muslims than secular liberals do.
I love it when random strangers help me prove my point.
I love it when random strangers help me prove my point.
There are several good points listed here.
AS I see it, Islam is just a perversion on Christianity. After all, Islam holds Jesus as a great prophet who actually has better credentials than Mohommad himself, being virgin born, perfect in all things, and taken up to heaven. It's funny how they have such high regard for a Jew..it's a puzzle until later in the holy koran when it forsees Jesus coming back at the end of the age to convert Jews and Christians to Islam, or kill them by beheading.
Both Christians and Muslims look forward to Jesus returning....either he's come to save all Isreal, or destroy Isreal, depending on who you talk to.
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AS I see it, Islam is just a perversion on Christianity. After all, Islam holds Jesus as a great prophet who actually has better credentials than Mohommad himself, being virgin born, perfect in all things, and taken up to heaven. It's funny how they have such high regard for a Jew..it's a puzzle until later in the holy koran when it forsees Jesus coming back at the end of the age to convert Jews and Christians to Islam, or kill them by beheading.
Both Christians and Muslims look forward to Jesus returning....either he's come to save all Isreal, or destroy Isreal, depending on who you talk to.
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